Grace and Truth to You

Personal Reflections on the Southern Baptist Convention, Christian Ministry, the Expositional Teaching of God's Word, and the Occasional Thought on My Family and the World in General

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Name: Wade Burleson
Location: Enid, Oklahoma

I am a native Oklahoman, educated in Texas, and have spent the last twenty five years pastoring in Oklahoma. I have a beautiful wife and four wonderful children.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005

Stand Up and Be Counted

I have received over 500 emails from people around the country who have expressed a belief that the new policies of the IMB on "tongues" and "baptism" are a mistake, and, as soon as possible, the IMB should revert back to using their former policies in screening missionary candidates (see The Old IMB Policies Compared to the New IMB Policies.

Many asked in their emails, for good reason, that they not be identified publicly. However, I believe it is important that I be able to give some kind of verifiable indication to my fellow trustees of how many across our convention are opposed to the new policies. In the end, I am not trying to convince my fellow trustees that the new policies are not Biblical (though I firmly believe they are not), but to show them that the Cooperative Program works because conservative Christians "cooperate" with each other, and when an entity, like the IMB, starts excluding people who disagree with the new policies from service, a large number of pastors, large churches, and lay people who support the Cooperative Program will be disenfranchised.

For this reason I am asking that everyone who is a Southern Baptist, has read up on the new policies (on this blog or others on the internet), and wishes to be counted in opposition to the new policies, to please sign this post. If you do not have a blog, simply click "other" at the bottom of the comment section and you may sign your name or initials and publish your comment. I will screen all comments before posting.

I am simply ask two things:

(1). You keep your comment on this post to one sentence or less.
(2). You sign your comment with name (or initials) and your place of Southern Baptist Church membership (city and state). You may list your church name if you wish, but that is not necessary.

As always, our spirits should remain gracious.

The principle is worth fighting for, but the people of God, no matter their position, are always worth loving.

Let's see how many sign this post before our next IMB Trustee meeting on January 9th-11th in Richmond, Virginia.

There are not enough votes yet on the IMB Board to revert back to the old policies on baptism and "tongues." In my opinion it is unwise to attempt to do so at the next IMB meeting in January.

However, this blog, simply indicates to those IMB trustees who are in leadership, that it can not, and it will not, be business as usual in the future. The IMB President and staff deserve the respect due their positions, and should always be allowed to speak their true feelings about policy changes to the trustees as a whole.

In His Grace and With Hope of Future Coooperation Among All Conservatives,


Wade Burleson

165 Comments:

Anonymous Jim Fisher said...

Keep up the good work! Jim Fisher, Bakersfield, California

Tue Dec 27, 12:49:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Barbara Simmons said...

Barbara Simmons, Washington, D.C.

Tue Dec 27, 12:55:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Melody Lenox, Liberty Church, Tulsa, OK

Tue Dec 27, 12:57:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Sam White said...

Thanks for your courage and gracious spirit. Sam White. Kansas City, Kansas

Tue Dec 27, 12:59:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul Burleson Evangelist...Norman Oklahoma...I'm with you and believe the former policies were/are sufficient. Member Grace Fellowship Church Norman Okla. SBC

Tue Dec 27, 01:12:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous John Spradlin said...

A trustee worthy of trust. JS, Springfield Missouri.

Tue Dec 27, 01:30:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous John Stam said...

Dr. John Stam, Missions Pastor, Emmanuel Baptist Church, Enid, Oklahoma

Tue Dec 27, 01:40:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have been with the IMB for 10 years serving in CEE region. Thanks for standing up for what is right.
JPM

Tue Dec 27, 02:07:00 PM 2005  
Blogger GeneMBridges said...

Gene M. Bridges
Winston-Salem, NC

"All who mingle their own inventions with the word of God, or who advance anything that does not belong to it, must be rejected, how honourable soever may be their rank." (John Calvin, Synoptic Gospels 2:284)

Blog: Triablogue

Tue Dec 27, 03:30:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Jim Champion said...

Keep up the good work, I am with you. Fielder Rd Bptist Church, Arlington, TX

Tue Dec 27, 03:42:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Jim said...

Jim Upchurch, Wendell, NC, Central Baptist Church

Tue Dec 27, 04:01:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Bart said...

Bart Box, Pastor, Arley, AL.

Tue Dec 27, 04:05:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous DLC said...

I believe the changes are wrong and need to go back to the old way.

Tue Dec 27, 04:25:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Junior said...

Junior Hicks, Charleston, South Carolina. With pleasure.

Tue Dec 27, 04:30:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Darren Casper, Pastor of 13 years @ Heartland Baptist - St. Louis, Mo. said...

As a theological conservative who holds to the inerrancy of Scripture and unwilling to compromise on the fundamentals of the faith, the recent action taken was a step toward separatism which is both is disappointing and grievous.

Tue Dec 27, 07:14:00 PM 2005  
Blogger David Phillips said...

David Phillips, pastor Mission Fellowship in Middletown, Delaware

Tue Dec 27, 08:39:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Steve said...

Steve McCoy, Calvary Baptist Church, Woodstock, IL. Thanks Wade.

Tue Dec 27, 08:48:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stand with you, Wade.
Chuck Andrews, Pastor
Grace Fellowship Church
Norman, OK

Tue Dec 27, 10:17:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Kiki Cherry said...

Doug and Kiki Cherry, Campus Ministers, Pittsburgh, PA.

Tue Dec 27, 10:48:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerry Schleiff, retired IMB missionary, Park Hill Baptist Church, Arkadelphia, AR.

Tue Dec 27, 10:49:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Dan Heath, Emmanuel Baptist, Enid, Ok. said...

The changes are not needed. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Tue Dec 27, 11:00:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous JLN said...

Johnathan Newman, Troy, Ohio

Tue Dec 27, 11:27:00 PM 2005  
Blogger scott m said...

Scott Morizot, Pflugerville, TX

Wed Dec 28, 12:10:00 AM 2005  
Blogger joe kennedy said...

Joe Kennedy, NOBTS Student, currently in Mobile, Alabama

Wed Dec 28, 12:34:00 AM 2005  
Blogger mark aka pastor guy said...

We are fighting fights that make us look ridiculous to the people we long to come to a saving relationship with Jesus and add nothing to the truth of Scripture...

mark jackson
pastor
NewLife Community Church (SBC)
Easton, CA

Wed Dec 28, 01:39:00 AM 2005  
Blogger -mike- said...

Kepp it up! Mike Noakes, former SBTS student, memeber in Jerome, Idaho.

Wed Dec 28, 01:42:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Sammy said...

Sam Shields, Irvine, California

Wed Dec 28, 01:43:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous M. L. said...

ML, Retired Missionary, Ecaudor

Wed Dec 28, 01:44:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Mrs. Ken Close said...

Judy Close, New York, NY. For the cause of Christ.

Wed Dec 28, 01:46:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Canticles said...

S.W., Dallas, TX

Wed Dec 28, 01:53:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Kevin Bussey said...

Keep Fighting the good fight.

Kevin Bussey, Charlotte, NC

Wed Dec 28, 02:36:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous nbp said...

nbp, Lexington, KY

Wed Dec 28, 03:25:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Tim Sweatman said...

Tim Sweatman, Pastor, Jackson Grove Baptist Church, Bowling Green, KY.
The previous guidelines were more faithful to biblical teaching on baptism.

Wed Dec 28, 04:26:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Charlie said...

Charlie Pharis, Pastor
Stonecrest Baptist Church
Woodstock, Georgia

Wed Dec 28, 08:14:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Todd said...

Todd Littleton, Snow Hill Baptist Church, Tuttle, Oklahoma

Wed Dec 28, 09:04:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Brad said...

Wade, I stand with you. Brad Hawkins, First Baptist Church, Okeene, Oklahoma

Wed Dec 28, 09:29:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Pastor Kevin said...

Pastor Kevin Choate, Evangelism and Singles, Emmanuel Baptist Church, Enid, Oklahoma

Wed Dec 28, 09:36:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Brian said...

Can I raise 2 hands?

Wed Dec 28, 09:43:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous SBC pastor Barry Davis said...

These new policies are not necessary...rescind the changes!

Wed Dec 28, 11:03:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Andrew Heath said...

Wade, I stand with you as well...
Andrew Heath, student pastor, emmanuel, enid

Wed Dec 28, 11:18:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Larry and Tanya Floyd said...

In this world of relativism, how could Southern Baptists even consider a weakening of the quick and powerful Word of God? We oppose ANY such changes to the IMB codes of acceptance.

Wed Dec 28, 11:24:00 AM 2005  
Blogger David Wilson said...

I am in agreement the former policies are correct.

Wed Dec 28, 11:40:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Steve said...

Steven Davis, Fort, Worth Texas

Wed Dec 28, 11:52:00 AM 2005  
Blogger jvpastor said...

Jason Shepherd, Snow Hill Baptist Church, Tuttle OK

Wed Dec 28, 12:13:00 PM 2005  
Blogger James Douglas said...

James Douglas-- Gentian Baptist Church in Columbus, GA

Wed Dec 28, 12:46:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous George Schuman said...

Deacon George Schuman, Clinton, Mississippi.

Wed Dec 28, 01:01:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Wade Burleson said...

Wade Burleson, Pastor, Emmanuel Baptist Church, Enid, Oklahoma

Wed Dec 28, 01:03:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Hugh said...

Dr. Hugh Lakeman, Atlanta, Georgia, SBC Great blog!

Wed Dec 28, 01:04:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cody Walton, Dallas, TX

Wed Dec 28, 01:25:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim and Francis Atkisson, Fayetteville, Arkansas

Wed Dec 28, 03:00:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeremie Wade, a seminary student in Louisville.

My wife and I stand by your comments and believe the IMB to be in the wrong on these issues. God Bless!!

Wed Dec 28, 03:39:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Toby said...

Former NAMB supported pastor in Utah. Toby Taff, Abilene, TX

Wed Dec 28, 03:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger IMFletch said...

We should return to the old policy. Chad, IMB worker in Turkey.

Wed Dec 28, 04:24:00 PM 2005  
Blogger martyduren said...

Marty and Sonya Duren
New Bethany Baptist Church
Buford, GA

Wed Dec 28, 04:32:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Ryan Abernathy said...

The previous policies were more than enough.
Ryan Abernathy Oklahoma City, OK

Wed Dec 28, 04:47:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous BarelyBaptist said...

Micah McCarty, Snow Hill Baptist, Tuttle, OK

Wed Dec 28, 06:06:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Rick Thompson said...

Rick and Teri Thompson
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Wed Dec 28, 06:15:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you...thank you for bringing this very serious matter to my attention!
Steve Holt
Lawton, OK

Wed Dec 28, 06:31:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Rev. Alan Hughes said...

I believe the old IMB candidate policies where much more faithful to the scriptures,to Christ, and to his Church! To Christ be the Glory in the Church!

Wed Dec 28, 06:34:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Dino said...

I disagree with the changes in the new IMB policies.

Wed Dec 28, 07:03:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the old IMB candidate policies where much more faithful to Christ and his Church! To Christ be the Glory in the Church!
Alan Hughed Pastor Union Grove Baptist Church

Wed Dec 28, 07:59:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Dino said...

I disagree with the changes in the new IMB policies. Tulsa, OK

Wed Dec 28, 08:18:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Eric M Schumacher said...

I do not approve of the changes.
Eric Schumacher, pastor
Bethany Baptist Church
Keokuk, Iowa

Wed Dec 28, 10:30:00 PM 2005  
Blogger DAVID C. PRICE said...

David and Karen Price
Louisville, KY

Wed Dec 28, 11:30:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mary Littleton,
Snow Hill Baptist, Tuttle, OK

Thu Dec 29, 01:38:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed, this is a bad policy and is indicative of a deeper problem.

STG, Central Asian region, IMB

Thu Dec 29, 07:01:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Rick said...

Rick & Christie Garrett
Minister of Education/Youth
First Baptist Church
Hazlehurst, GA

Thu Dec 29, 09:05:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Reggie Horne said...

These new policies advance a dangerous trend in lessening the autonomy of the local church and advancing denominational dogma (as opposed to Sola Scriptura). Reggie Horne - Church Planter - Augusta, GA

Thu Dec 29, 09:44:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Jim Shaver said...

Jim Shaver, Pastor
Providence Baptist Church
New Bloomfield, MO

I feel like a target already in the "New SBC"....I'm with you.

Thu Dec 29, 10:16:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Clif Cummings said...

I believe the new policy MUST be made null and void for the sake of the Cooperative Program.

Thu Dec 29, 11:19:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Nicole M said...

Thanks for speaking out against the recent changes...
Nicole Merrell
Norco, California

Thu Dec 29, 11:34:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Joe Thorn said...

Joe Thorn, Grace Baptist Church
Elburn, IL

Thu Dec 29, 12:47:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Blair J. Andress said...

Actions such as these are the reasons I continue to seriously consider leaving the SBC forever (and I am an ordained SBC minister).

Blair J. Andress
Millbrook, AL

Thu Dec 29, 02:53:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Scott Slayton said...

Scott Slayton
Parrish First Baptist Church
Parrish, AL

Thu Dec 29, 04:39:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous JD Strong said...

I think Paul would say, "Break out the milk." (1 Cor 3)... JD Strong, Oklahoma City, OK

Thu Dec 29, 06:27:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Micah said...

I'm thankful for the opportunity to stand with you.

Micah Fries
Missouri Valley Baptist Church
St. Joseph, Missouri

Thu Dec 29, 06:32:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Jed Wallace said...

I thank the Lord for your courage, grace and truthfulness. Jed Wallace, 80 year old SBC member, San Antoniio, Texas

Thu Dec 29, 08:52:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Kevin G. Morris said...

Please continue to resist those seeking to add their legalism to the IMB codes of acceptance.
Liberty Church, SBC, Tulsa OK

Thu Dec 29, 10:15:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Jeremy Porter said...

Jeremy P
Lexington, KY

Fri Dec 30, 01:08:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Tad Thompson said...

I believe these policies do not enhance the ground that has been gained over the past 30 years in SBC life.

Tad Thompson
Harvard Avenue Baptist Church
Siloam Springs, AR

Fri Dec 30, 01:31:00 AM 2005  
Blogger fedbeggar said...

I agree with you Wade. Kent McKeaigg Enid OK

Fri Dec 30, 02:50:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Christie said...

Christie Garrett
Hazlehurst, GA

Fri Dec 30, 09:58:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Pastor Jim said...

Grace and Truth an appropriate name! Jim Davis, Pastor, Los Angeles, California

Fri Dec 30, 11:43:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Bowden McElroy said...

Bowden McElroy, Broken Arrow, OK

Fri Dec 30, 12:39:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Paulicus said...

Paul Thompson, Eagle Heights Church, Oklahoma City, OK

Fri Dec 30, 02:49:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Tony H. said...

Tony Hawkins, Riverside Baptist, Colbert, GA

Fri Dec 30, 04:18:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Shawn said...

Shawn Skaggs, Snowhill Baptist Church, Tuttle, OK.

Fri Dec 30, 06:02:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous JW said...

Jenny Williams, FS, Del City, Oklahoma

Fri Dec 30, 07:32:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wade,

We didn’t have problems with tongues, now we do – as a former teammate will be prevented from returning to the field as he seeks re-appointment.

Keep up the good work!
Name Withheld (serving with IMB in Central Asia)

Sat Dec 31, 10:38:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Steve said...

The adoption of these new policies is symptomatic of deep and disturbing problems in our convention.

Steve Walker
Pastor
Gateway Community Church
Alhambra, CA

Sat Dec 31, 10:56:00 AM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

R.G. Lyons (OC) and family, field personnel "last frontier", am compelled to be counted with those who want the extra-scriptural candidate policies to be revoked and returned to their previous wording.

Sat Dec 31, 01:07:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Wade. Betty and I agree.
This is a major intrusion on the autonomy of the local church.

RP Thompson
Retired Pastor, Oklahoma City

Sat Dec 31, 01:22:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous Stephen Pruett said...

I support your statement, and I pray the trustees will reconsider their action on this matter. Surely, they can find better ways to deal with their concerns than to exclude sorely needed missionaries who are qualified and called by God. Are these matters of doctrinal purity important enough that the trustees would be willing to explain thier actions to those who miss heaven because a missionary was not sent? Stephen Pruett, Bellaire Baptist Church, Bossier City, LA

Sat Dec 31, 05:59:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Paul said...

Paul Littleton
Faith Baptist Church, Sapulpa, Oklahoma

Sat Dec 31, 10:34:00 PM 2005  
Anonymous The Cooks said...

Darlene Cook, Titusville, Florida

Sun Jan 01, 12:43:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous John said...

Retired Missionary JBC, Ecuador, Keep up the wonderful work

Sun Jan 01, 12:44:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous RCP said...

Dr. Perry, SS Louisville, Kentucky

Sun Jan 01, 12:45:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous Mr. and Mrs Adams said...

Mr. and Mrs Sam Adams, Dallas Texas

Sun Jan 01, 12:46:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous Kyle said...

Wonderful blog! K. Johnson, Littleton, Colorado, Riverside Ch.

Sun Jan 01, 12:47:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous DH said...

Worthy of all our effort, Pastor Dennis Huckaby, Tennessee

Sun Jan 01, 12:48:00 AM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I support you in your stand and pray that you are successful in getting this overturned.

Jim A. Schroeder, Emmaus Baptist Church, Moore, Oka.

Sun Jan 01, 03:51:00 PM 2006  
Blogger holly said...

Holly Ferguson, NOBTS and GGBTS alum, Mississippi

Sun Jan 01, 06:09:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dana McAtee
Council Road, Bethany, OK

Sun Jan 01, 06:13:00 PM 2006  
Blogger jason said...

Jason Allen. FBC Warrensburg, MO

Mon Jan 02, 12:09:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad someone is out there to speak for us.

Mike Walker, Waverly Baptist, Waverly, MO

Mon Jan 02, 05:56:00 PM 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The old policy was far better than the new.

CF

Louisville KY

Mon Jan 02, 06:54:00 PM 2006